WelshDevilRob Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Press conference and first head-to-head was this week. Seems genuine bad blood between these two Londoners. Titles on the line Commonwealth (British Empire) heavyweight title vacant BBBofC British heavyweight title WBC International heavyweight title 26-year-old Anthony Joshua is 14-0, 14 KOs and a pro since 05-10-2013 27-year-old Dillian Whyte is 16-0, 13 KOs and a pro since 13-05-2011 Which of these British boxers prevails on 12-12-2015? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Joshua, maybe 4 or 5th round. Hope so, whyte didn't look up to much to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I agree, never been impressed with Whyte so far, nor do I buy any of this "bad blood" rubbish - total put-up job to sell tickets, just like Campbell-Coyle was. Joshua before halfway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted November 6, 2015 Author Share Posted November 6, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I agree, never been impressed with Whyte so far, nor do I buy any of this "bad blood" rubbish - total put-up job to sell tickets, just like Campbell-Coyle was. Joshua before halfway. Having watched all the IFL vids of their meeting this week - I'd say it looks very genuine. I'm a fan of Joshua but the nice guy persona isn't real - looks like he could explode at any minute. Whyte seems to get under his skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Having watched all the IFL vids of their meeting this week - I'd say it looks very genuine. I'm a fan of Joshua but the nice guy persona isn't real - looks like he could explode at any minute. Whyte seems to get under his skin. Oh yeah, to borrow a quote from Old Harry's Game on Radio 4 "I never trust anyone who puts that much effort into his effortless charm" - I'm just not convinced by any of the IFL stuff either(though I have only skimmed through it because IFL is drivel at the best of times) - I think the majority of fighters know how to sell a fight these days, it's just some are better actors than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I really like Joshua, he just a professional. Don't think he's trying to be the nice guy. Think he's just not a completely tit like most of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Whyte, of course, beat Joshua on points in the amateur ranks in 2009. Since then they have constantly bad mouthed each other, in equal proportions - although Whyte is being "cast" as the baddie in all of the charade. Joshua has been volunteering drug cheat insults towards Whyte since his two year ban on a regular basis. What caused a genuine rift was Joshua agreeing to spar with Whyte in the lead up to his (Joshua's) bout with Airich and then snubbing the offer on the very evening of the sparring session. Whyte obviously read more into this than was wise..... But I agree, the ticket-selling show is well under way now. My prediction is a R4-6 KO or TKO in favour of AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I think it's a 50-50 fight, even though most would favor AJ. I see Joshua as a pretty boy who got everything handed to him as an amateur (including a few major wins that he didn't deserve) and who has LITERALLY not yet faced a pro opponent that tried to punch back. Whyte definitely punches back. He has arguably as much power as AJ, and he moves more quickly. AJ clearly has better fundamentals, esp his defense, but he fights conservatively. Whyte is a little sloppy, but he fights like a wild animal. AJ has never had something like this come at him, when he wasn't wearing headgear. On top of that, for all his "I'm taking this fight seriously" talk, AJ has had it way too easy. He probably believes his gym sweat don't stink. Whyte is hungry, and knows this could be his only / last shot at the big time. There's a LOT to all this. If I were betting real money, I'd begrudgingly pick AJ by KO. However, I 'aint got no money TO bet, :noidea: so I'm picking Whyte by KO. If it happens, I'm gonna' dance all week. I just REALLY don't like Joshua & can't wait to see someone humble him. The only result that has basically no chance of happening is Whyte by decision. We all know the cards have already been filled in. Edited November 10, 2015 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GianMan Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? If Joshua keeps in mind that this is another level of opposition he is facing, he should get the win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmeling Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Joshua is the much better fighter, he'll ko Whyte in round 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makingweight Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Joshua by KO the 3rd or 4th round for me.Whyte certainly isn't fazed by Joshua and gets under his skin,the bad blood between the two is genuine no doubt.The reason I pick Joshua is Whyte carries his hands far too low and he is aggressive and open.Will be interesting if Whyte catches Joshua early as both are heavy handed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlingsiki Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Faint shades of Lewis v Mason from back in 1991. I think it's a close fight. It'll go to around the 8-9 rd mark with both boxers having their moments. Whyte is underrated and deceptive. AJ should win on paper but a Whyte win would not surprise me, a temple shot out of no-where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMFC64 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? AJ to win in 5 had to laugh when Dillian called him Femi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? 3rd round TKO for AJ. I think Whyte has a few good moments in the opening 2 rounds. Then Joshua drops him in the 3rd, and the ref stops the onslaught against the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? 3rd round TKO for AJ. I think Whyte has a few good moments in the opening 2 rounds. Then Joshua drops him in the 3rd, and the ref stops the onslaught against the ropes. I guarantee the ref will be looking for any & every excuse to stop the fight & give AJ his TKO. - Unless the bookies want it to go to the cards, which is another strong possibility. Edited November 10, 2015 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chico Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? seen white got a bit of a strop on him cos johnny nelson answered a question on who joshua should fight after him as if he is guaranteed tioo win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost with a hammer Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Press conference and first head-to-head was this week. Seems genuine bad blood between these two Londoners. Titles on the line Commonwealth (British Empire) heavyweight title vacant BBBofC British heavyweight title WBC International heavyweight title 26-year-old Anthony Joshua is 14-0, 14 KOs and a pro since 05-10-2013 27-year-old Dillian Whyte is 16-0, 13 KOs and a pro since 13-05-2011 Which of these British boxers prevails on 12-12-2015? Dillian whyte is gonna cause big upset. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I'm surprised people think whyte will win, not because I think Joshua is great but because I didn't think whyte looked good at all. What am I missing?Joshua's chin is untested, so you never know but whytes last fight he didn't look any thing special. Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I'm surprised people think whyte will win, not because I think Joshua is great but because I didn't think whyte looked good at all. What am I missing?Joshua's chin is untested, so you never know but whytes last fight he didn't look any thing special. Genuine question. He's powerful, wild, pretty fast, and hungry. A dangerous combination. And Joshua has yet to be tested as a pro, in any way. His opponents literally make those of Deontay Wilder look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? And Joshua has yet to be tested as a pro, in any way. His opponents literally make those of Deontay Wilder look good. Stiverne and Duahapas excepted, I disagree that the opponents have been significantly worse, but also Joshua is not(or better not) be claiming world-level. He's going for the British title. His opposition has been utter shite of course, but so has Whyte's. That, as much as anything, is why I think it's a coin-toss - the pair of them last had competitive fights in the amateurs. I think Whyte is likely to be too open and Joshua's power too much for him, but certainly. Either way, this fight should be the first of many real fights for both men - I have no patience for timewasting disguised as seasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? He's powerful, wild, pretty fast, and hungry. A dangerous combination. And Joshua has yet to be tested as a pro, in any way. His opponents literally make those of Deontay Wilder look good. I just didn't see any of that in Whytes last fight, admittedly I've only seen two of his fights. He looked quite frankly rubbish. But I don't know enough about him really. I think Joshua looks a better boxer, we don't know about his chin yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? I just didn't see any of that in Whytes last fight, admittedly I've only seen two of his fights. He looked quite frankly rubbish. But I don't know enough about him really. I think Joshua looks a better boxer, we don't know about his chin yet. Well, I admit it could partially be wishful thinking. I'm just dying to see AJ humbled. - but you "just didn't see any of that" in his 3-round obliteration of Brian Minto? Really? Well, huh..... I really do think Whyte brings something to this fight: (At the risk of repeating myself) Whyte reminds me a lot of Joseph Parker: Solid fundamentals (though his legs are a bit stiff and he sometimes throws wild) great athleticism, great head movement, good patience but then explosive offense when the opportunity arises. Against Nascimento, I LOVE how he threw that left hook, (especially the first KD) closing the distance but then getting his weight back on his rear foot, for maximum leverage. That's really, REALLY hard to do well. (Even Wlad can't do it properly.) Whyte’s best attribute is that he REALLY goes to the body ! He also seems to be reading his opponents, and adapting to their rhythm, which is also something Parker does well, and something that you never see Anthony Joshua do, for comparison. NEGATIVES: He may be wasting a little energy with all that movement, which is so common with younger fighters. Also, he can be a LITTLE sloppy. He goes for too many KO shots, often missing and leaving imself off-balance. Against AJ that could be early death. Possibly troubling is how off-balance he got against Nascimento, after throwing the fight-ending OH right. Whyte practically fell forward onto the canvas. If that punch had been blocked or slipped, and he was facing a powerful counterpuncher (Like Stiverne, for instance) he would have been dinner. I'm not sure AJ has the reflexes to take advantage, though. (I just really don't think much of AJ, what can I tell you. I don't see it.) And let's not forget that Whyte is now working with Jonathan Banks (whom Whyte met while sparring with Wlad, another big plus) at the Kronk gym. This is a very recent development, (just before the costa fight, IIRC) and I thinks it's a perfect combination. Banks is heavy on "defense first" and fighting tall & balanced. Just what Whyte needs. - And they don't mess around in Detroit boxing. Hard as nails. Edited November 11, 2015 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Well it's going to be interesting, I just want Joshua to have a real test. Whyte did look bit novice like, your description of sloppy probably more or less what I gathered from that last fight. Thanks I'm looking forward to it more now. Did think it'd be another easy win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? Well it's going to be interesting, I just want Joshua to have a real test. Whyte did look bit novice like, your description of sloppy probably more or less what I gathered from that last fight. Thanks I'm looking forward to it more now. Did think it'd be another easy win. You also have to remember that Whyte just started working with Banks this year. He's only had 2 fights with him, and they are working on a number of "faults" as Whyte himself put it. (He seems pretty level-headed & humble, which is yet another positive attribute.) - So most likely Whyte is still thinking too much in the ring, trying to incorporate new stuff. He'll have had another 3 months of integration by the time he faces Joshua. Look what Teddy Atlas did with Bradley in just six weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynne.buckley Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Re: Who wins between Anthony Joshua vs Dillian Whyte? True, takes a while to change things and adapt to different methods/styles. The heavyweight division is bit short on talent so it's all positive. I like aj, he seems like a decent guy and like that there's no circus around him. (Apart from lack of progression). I do think he's worried about this fight. The loss bound to have made some kind impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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